To-night! |
(1992) |
Bryan: I’m
joined as always by Bryant,
second-to-Last of the Red Hot Swamis.
Bryant: Second-to-last of the Red Hot Swamis, First of the
Chili-Cheese Doggers. Pleased to be here, and pass the mustard.
Bryan: Here's Bruce's double-album release from 1992. It got a decent amount of airplay at the time, but the reaction was decidedly cool. I
seem to like Human Touch a lot more than other people, although I had to
downgrade some of my original scores after repeat listenings.
Bryant: I
had either this or Devils and Dust earmarked as his worst album, so some of
these scores you sent surprised me. I was anxious to get to this album and give
it a reappraisal. It again proved highly useful to me to use Asbury Park
as a calibration agent. I found myself literally asking in many cases,
"Do I like this song more or less than 'The Angel' and 'Mary, Queen of
Arkansas'?" In a few cases, surprisingly, I had to answer
"less."
Bryan: Let
us proceed apace.
HUMAN
"Human Touch"
Bryant: 2.5/5
Nothing wrong with this, except that it goes on FAR too long.
Bryan: 2.5/5 Sometimes I
don’t mind so much, but with something like this song, I just wonder what
mechanism in Bruce’s brain told him this needed to be over six friggin’ minutes
long. Should have been 3 and a half, tops. Come on now. Anyway – as a sort of
announcement that the mellower, less-E-Street-y sound from Tunnel of Love will
continue, it serves its purpose. Not a blockbuster, but it’s catchy and feels
and sounds good enough.
Bryant: 2/5
Decent little song, but boy can I imagine Springsteen fans wanting to punch
themselves in the face listening to this the first time.
Bryan: 3.75/5 FWIW that was indeed my reaction
at the time. I kind of love it now, though and think it’s an underrated bit of his
catalog. Sure it’s not the most exciting arrangement or sonic assault, but the
lyrics, vibe, and pace agree with me. I kept expecting to downgrade this one a
lot with repeat listenings – and I did drop it down ever so slightly – but I
think it’s a worthy tune. Cool lyrics, to boot.
Bryant: It's solid. The production is weird (sounds
like Terence Trent D’Arby snuck in and couldn’t be removed), but even that
isn't bad; it's just weird (relative to the rest of Springsteen's career).
Bryan: Definitely a sideroad for sure. In some way I can't properly explain, it really reminds me of the early 90s. I don't mean the associative-memories angle, just the sound/approach.
Bryan: Definitely a sideroad for sure. In some way I can't properly explain, it really reminds me of the early 90s. I don't mean the associative-memories angle, just the sound/approach.
"57 Channels (And Nothin' On)"
Bryan: 3.75/5 I've thought about this song
often over the years. I'll have to look up some live performances and see if he
makes the ever-expanding number of channels part of the performance.
Bryant: 2.5/5 If
Wikipedia has not lied to me, that's Randy American Idol Jackson on
bass, which is something to ponder. I dig this song, though.
Bryant: I don't know if it's online anywhere accessible, but I remember his SNL performance of "57 Channels and Nothing On" being excruciatingly awful. BUT, that's a much younger version of me talking; I haven't seen it since it aired, and I wasn't a fan at the time. I remember him yelping the "FIF" part of the title. I bet it's pretty awesome.
Bryan: I remember catching that at the time (I must have
caught damn near every SNL from 1987
through 2006 or so, minus a couple of years in the 90s when I lived in Dayton
and didn't have cable/ an antenna) and totally having a ‘Man, Bruce has lost
it’ reaction.
Bryant: Here's an audio-only version. I like that U2-style intro. Yawping aside, that's pretty
great.
Bryan: I ended up tracking down the videos. All in all, not the train
wreck I remember. The "57 Channels/ Living Proof" medley is a little disjointed,
maybe, but they pull it together for the end. Bruce's guitar is pretty wild.
The yawping is an odd choice.
"Lucky Town" is just fine, by the way - they
played that one first and the "57 Channels/ Living Proof" medley
second.
Bryan 2/5 Not bad. (Edit: Okay, it’s pretty bad.)
Bryant: If
I make myself hear this in the style of Nebraska, this one works for me
okay. But as-is, it's kind of painful to my ears. Bruce was
floundering here. 1.75/5
Bryant:
This one is right up there on my list of Worst Springsteen Songs. 1.5/5
from me. I'm glad you dig it, though! And I can kind of hear it as a River-style
rocker. Too bad that isn't what happened to it. These chumps in this
"band" are no E Streeters, that's for sure.
Bryan: 4/5 I agree that these guys are no E
Streets, but I kind of love this tune. Here’s another one I kept expecting to
downgrade, but my strong opinion of it stayed steady. This might have been a big hit for a band like The Cult. Here's a pretty lackadaisical version from the UK side of the '92-93 tour. If you contrast it to the studio version, aforelinked, it helps bring out the agreeability of the album version. I offer this as a public service.
"With Every Wish"
Bryan: 2.5/5 Musically (except for that lovely
trumpet) it doesn't do much for me, but the storytelling here is nice
enough.
Bryant: 2.5/5 This might be my favorite song on the album. It’s
restrained, simple, evocative, and effective. Nothing special, necessarily, but
he at least gets on base with this one.
"Roll of the Dice"
Bryan: 3.25/5 Not bad. Kind of generic pop
sounding but no problem. That piano riff is basically just a scale, but it sticks in my head. I'm frankly shocked how often I find myself singing or otherwise thinking of this one.
Bryant: 1.5/5
I'll tell you what this one sounds like to me: a bunch of guys who are super
excited to be working with Bruce Springsteen, and are really letting it rip,
but to no good effect. This is a mediocre song at best, but they're really
going for it. I mean, hard to blame 'em, right?
Bryan: Here's a version that I kinda like, even if it showcases the perfectly-competent blah-ness of the non-E-Streeters. I like how the description says "Bruce with the Other Band." It's almost like we all make a point not to learn their names; poor dudes.
But hell, our loyalty to the E Streeters was genetically engineered, FFS, from the endless-mythos of themselves across the albums.
Bryan: Here's a version that I kinda like, even if it showcases the perfectly-competent blah-ness of the non-E-Streeters. I like how the description says "Bruce with the Other Band." It's almost like we all make a point not to learn their names; poor dudes.
Well, with one notable exception. |
But hell, our loyalty to the E Streeters was genetically engineered, FFS, from the endless-mythos of themselves across the albums.
“Real World”
Bryant: I hear "Real World" as being potentially
effective if done in the slower style of Tunnel of Love, but this new
band's take on it does not work for me. 1.5/5
Bryan: 3.25.5 I can see that, but I kinda dig
it. Like “Roll of the Dice” (or “Soul Driver”) it’s kind of a generic
pop-sounding sort of deal, but I can’t say I mind all that much. I think it’s a
decent tune. Might’ve been better to give this one to someone else, maybe.
“All Or Nothin’ at All”
Bryant: Wants to be "You Can Look But You Better Not
Touch," but can't even sniff that one. 1.25/5
Bryan: 2/5 I don't quite hear the similarity, but I wish it was a bit more of a “YCLBYBNT” vibe, you ask me. It
doesn’t bother me, but it’s kinda boring/ generic.
"Man's Job"
Bryan: 2.25/5 Ditto. Seems like Bruce is
exploring a different kind of guitar sound on tracks like this. A sound Van
Zandt might not have liked or something? Interestingly, when he showed SVZ all
these track, VZ's advice was that they all needed the E Street band to come
alive.
Bryant: Steve was right. This is handily one of my least
favorite Springsteen songs. Tell that background singer to hush,
somebody. 1/5
Bryan: 3.5/5 Nice and simple. I kind of love
stuff like this. Would be a great track for Willie Nelson or Lyle Lovett or
something. Or Dylan, actually - that's really who this reminds me of most of
all. Maybe I'm overrating this one, but I think it's just a sweet tune.
Bryant: 2.25/5 I like this song; it gets
closer to the agreeable vibe that was Tunnel of Love. It does seem
to be tailor-made for a guy like Lyle Lovett; that's a great call! Roy
Orbison would have turned it into a stone-cold classic.
Bryant: 1/5
Utterly unmemorable. Worst song on the album for me, and therefore
arguably the worst song of Springsteen's career.
Bryan: 2.25/5 My vote for 2nd
worst. My least favorite is:
"Real Man”
Bryan: 2/5 The lyrics are good, but the
arrangement's not that exciting.
Bryant: 1/5 A song called "Real Man"
begins with a synthesized horn blast. Uh-huh...
Bryan: Real men uses synths! If the Vikings or Mongols had keytars, they'd have kicked the shit out of everyone with "The Final Countdown" rather than axes to the head.
Bryan: Real men uses synths! If the Vikings or Mongols had keytars, they'd have kicked the shit out of everyone with "The Final Countdown" rather than axes to the head.
"Pony Boy"
Bryan: 2.5/5 More Dylan! Fine by me. Sensible
choice to close this album but not a fave.
Bryant: Pressed for an answer to the question of what my
most-hated Springsteen song is, I'd likely have given you this as an
answer. But it's not actually as bad as I tend to remember it. What
sense does it make as an album-closer, though? And specifically for THIS
album...? I'll give it a 1.5/5
Bryan: I
wrote what I wrote before reading your remarks. Really? What about it makes you
think that? For me, it’s an eclectic mix of tunes, so it seemed to “feel”
right. If it ended with something like “Roll of the Dice,” for example, the
lingering after-taste would be something like generic-pop-sounding. Which is
perhaps an honest aftertaste for this album, but I think “Pony Boy” is a good
choice in that it might make you think you’ve listened to something more
profound than you actually have.
Bryant: You make a good point. It does give it a human touch, one might say.
(One might also NOT say such a thing, if one were not a lame-o.)
FINAL THOUGHTS
Bryan: Total: 39.5 Avg: 2.84 I can see the
less-than-enthused reaction to this one, I guess, but to my ears it sounds
pretty good. Does it not "aspire to greatness?" Possibly. Is that
okay? Definitely. Still a collection of good tracks and if you kind of wonder
why (like SVZ) the Boss would want to step back and do this album instead of
some huge E Street bonanza, you can't really dis the tracks themselves.
Bryant: 23.75
total, 1.70 average So we're pretty far apart on this one, obviously. Again,
if I were assessing a simple like/dislike metric, I'd say I like a mere five of
the songs. It sounds to my ears like Bruce was floundering. The good news
is that there is no other album in his discography -- even Lucky Town --
that stands a chance of getting anywhere near that low a score from me. Or,
at least, that's how I remember it. The math
will tell us for sure! Traditionally, I've sided with the majority in being a
bigger fan of Lucky Town. I'm guessing that's how it'll shake out
this time, too. Not that I think that one is all THAT much better; I
don't think its lows are as low for me, but the highs aren't much higher,
either. We'll see!
Bryan: We
shall indeed. RIGHT NOW!
LUCKY
“Better Days”
Bryant: 2.75/5 I feel some passion from this
song that is (to my ears) lacking in the majority of Human Touch.
Bryan: 2.5/5 It's okay just meh. The chorus
never really moved me.
Bryan: 3.5/5 This chorus, though, always gets
stuck in my head. Kind of a Dylan drawl Bruce sings on this one, but it
works.
Bryant: 2.75/5 I like this, but kind of wish
there was a stripped-down acoustic version.
“Local Hero”
Bryan: 2.25/5 Like the lyrics a lot
("First they made me the king then they made me pope / Then they brought
the rope") but not the most exciting music / arrangement for me.
Bryant: 2/5 I can imagine this being done in the
vein of the Born in the USA songs and coming off well, but as-is, this
one doesn't do much for me.
“If I Should Fall Behind”
Bryant: 3/5 I dig this one, but, in a reversal
of my typical stance, prefer the live version that can be found on the Live In
NYC album a few years later. And I prefer that one by a wide margin. This
is good, though; they just took a good song and later turned it into a great
one.
Bryan: 3/5 It's fine - kind of a nice country
tune I guess but not my thing. A little too similar to “I Wish I Was Blind,”
which I prefer.
“Leap of Faith”
Bryan: 1.5/5 This is pretty bland.
Bryant: 1.5/5 Blander than bland. A rice cake
with unseasoned tofu spread.
“The Big Muddy”
Bryan: 1.75/5 Some ambience I like but mostly
meh. For a dream sequence in a deleted scene from Young Guns 2 or something.
Bryant: 1/5 There's probably a better version of
this song that simply never got found in the sessions. This one is high on
my list of least-favorite Springsteen songs.
“Living Proof”
Bryan: 2.25/5 Kind of the same deal as
"Local Hero". I appreciate the lyrics, but the tune is kinda meh.
Bryant: 2.25/5 If he'd cared to do so, he could
have just gathered some of the songs in this vein together, claimed he'd
decided to make a Garth Brooks-style country album, and probably sat back and
reaped the plaudits. Because, as you've pointed out, that's what a lot of
these songs are, and as that, they're not bad. I got no beef with this
song; it's just not what I'm looking for from Bruce Springsteen.
Bryan:
That’d have been a good idea! Incidentally, I’m listening to a Ratt playlist
while typing this up, and you’d be surprised how much it’s throwing off my
game. Ratt is not a good band to try and write/ organize to. YOU KNOW YOU
REALLY WANT TO LAY IT DOWN – RIGHT NOW! AND HOW! I KNOW – sorry. See what I
mean? I have the same problem with Radiohead but for much different reasons.
“Book of Dreams”
Bryan: 3.75/5 Great lyrics here. If you crank
this one, it’s much better. You can see the way pointing to “Streets of
Philadelphia” and “My City of Ruins,” though maybe it’s just another stop on
that way, starting back with “My Hometown” or even earlier. I can’t quite get
to 4 for this, but I do really appreciate its presence here.
Bryant: 2.25/5 This would have been more or
less at home on Tunnel of Love. As a b-side, if not on the actual
album.
Bryan: It really would, you're right. Here's a nice live version.
Bryan: It really would, you're right. Here's a nice live version.
“Souls of the Departed”
Bryant: 1/5 Yuck. The guitar on this
sucks, and drags an already-lousy song down to an even lower level.
Bryan: 2/5 I hear you. I sympathize with Bruce's desire to just want to stretch his legs/ relax with different musicians than the E Streeters, but at the same time it's like, yeah but those guys are always great-sounding. These guys... technically fine, but there's something missing. Bruce agreed, eventually. Anyway, some lines here, like "Now I ply my
trade in the land of king dollar / Where you get paid and your silence passes
as honor / And all the hatred and dirty little lies / Been written off the
books and into decent men's eyes" are good stuff. I at least like the
guitar at the very end, but it’s not enough to really carry the song for me.
Bryant: Those are good lyrics. I’m perpetually guilty
– not just with Springsteen, but in general – of failing to pay appropriate attention
to song lyrics. Sometimes they really strike me, but if they don’t, they may as
well be wallpaper in a blind man’s home. And that’s not fair, because it causes
me to miss out on stuff like this. Ah well.
“My Beautiful Reward”
Bryant: 3/5 Would have been at home on Nebraska. Good
stuff; I might even have this scored a bit too low.
Bryan: 3.5/5 Good album closer, kind of a great little
tune to my ears. I agree - would've been home on Nebraska. Not a bad version here. Look at that crowd! That's South American Metal Festival size.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Bryan: Total
26 Avg 2.6 I seem to have the opposite reaction to this double album than
most, preferring Human Touch to Lucky Town. But also the specific
criticisms like (from the wiki) "While Human Touch was a disappointing album of
second-rate material, Lucky Town is an ambitious collection addressing many of
Springsteen's major concerns and moving them forward" I feel are more
apt for Lucky Town.
Bryant: 21.5
total, 2.15 average. So, better than Human Touch, but by less
than I'd have guessed at the outset of this project. The songs I dislike
really weight it down. I hate to be a cliche, but I really am one of those guys
who thinks Springsteen would have been well-advised to simply take the best
songs from both albums and make a single release from them.
And hey, why not suggest what
that might have looked like? Here goes:
(1) "57 Channels (And Nothin' On)"
(2) "Human Touch"
(3) "Better Days"
(4) "With Every Wish"
(5) "I Wish I Were Blind"
(6) "Lucky Town"
(7) "My Beautiful Reward"
(8) "If I Should Fall Behind"
(9) "Living Proof"
(10) "Book of
Dreams"
That album -- which I'd call Book
of Dreams -- would earn the following score from me: 25.75 overall, 2.58 average. So not too bad.
Bryan: That same set of songs would score Tot 30.75 Avg 3.1 for me. Not bad at all
and better than either album scores with me individually. My own list of tunes
would look about the same, though I’d be fine ditching “Human Touch” and
“Better Days” and subbing in “Gloria’s Eyes” and “Soul Driver.” And I’d get rid
of “If I Should Fall Behind,” too. I like it, just yeah, if “I Wish I Were
Blind” is on here, I’d choose that one over that; they’re kind of the same song
and I just prefer “Wish I Were Blind.” Maybe I’d put “Roll of the Dice” and
“Real World’ in there, too, just to mix it up/ for context.
Bryant: Ultimately my feeling about these two albums is this: so what that they're not great? They're okay; a few songs are poor enough that I have to say I actively dislike them, but even those are better than a lot of other things I could listen to.
Bryant: Ultimately my feeling about these two albums is this: so what that they're not great? They're okay; a few songs are poor enough that I have to say I actively dislike them, but even those are better than a lot of other things I could listen to.
I suspect that a lot of
artistic inspiration comes from deep unhappiness, whereas contentment and
happiness are the mortal enemies of rock and roll. So my guess -- and
maybe there's something in Carlin's book that speaks to this one way or the
other -- is that Springsteen had maybe gotten to a point where he was actually
enjoying being alive. If that's true, then I'm glad these albums are
mediocre. That guy had just given the world ... depending on what you
count ... seven or eight great albums over the course of a decade and a
half.
That's enough. Man, if the
price for him finding those "Better Days" and that "Living
Proof" was that his music was suddenly not quite as great, then I'm
perfectly okay with that.
Or maybe none of that is accurate and he'd just lost his
way. Even so, if THIS is what losing your way sounds like, all who lose
their way should do half as well.
Bryan: Your guess is exactly right - the songwriting
process for the double album release, there, came from a very complacent place
for Bruce, and I often wonder the same thing: what do you do when exorcising
your demons (so to speak) via art leads you to a happy place? Bruce’s process
seems pretty anti-bullshitting-yourself, and, looking around at his life in the
early 90s, Bruce was pretty content. Did it take some of the edge off?
Absolutely. And like you say, hey, happy for the guy. Anyway, to your point, Bruce
was getting more and more into therapy at this point, and it all came out of
realizations post-Born in the USA and Tunnel of Love re: his own mind and
temperament/ internal vs. external expectations and where they came from, etc. I'll have to read that Rolling Stone interview
again - he talks about his 90s state of mind a lot in there. I clipped this
from Bruce In His Own Words, though I think he’s reading aloud from his
autobiography: "You cannot figure out who you are if you don't understand
where you came from, what were the forces that work on your life as a child, as
a teenager, and as a young man. What part do you have to play? How do you
empower yourself?"
Bryant: Yep, that all makes sense. Which means that Bruce probably thinks much
more fondly of these albums – or, at least, of the process of making them –
than do the vast majority of his fans. That sort of thing is so interesting to contemplate, similar to how
actors can have the absolute time of their lives making a movie literally
nobody likes. An artist’s experience
need not be at all similar to an audience’s.
Bryant:
Human Touch 1.7
Lucky Town 2.15
(Bryant’s proposed
mash-up Book of Dreams 2.58)
Greetings from Asbury Park 2.75
Tunnel of Love 3.35
The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle 3.68
Live ’75 - ‘85 3.7
The River 3.39
Born to Run 4.35
Darkness on the Edge of Town 4.4
Nebraska 4.63
Born in the USA 4.88
Bryan:
Lucky Town 2.15
Greetings from Asbury Park 2.19
Human Touch 2.84
(Bryant’s proposed mash-up Book of Dreams 3.1)
(Bryant’s proposed mash-up Book of Dreams 3.1)
The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle 3.43
The River 3.71
Tunnel of Love 3.8
Darkness on the Edge of Town 3.82
Live ’75 - ‘85 4
Born to Run 4.41
Nebraska 4.5
Born in the USA 5.44
Well, I listened to "Soul Driver," "Just Another Roll of the Dice," "Gloria's Eyes" and "Lucky Town" again today as part of a little lunchtime mix, and I still like those tunes a lot.
ReplyDeleteOne can do worse, for sure. That said, of that group, I can't even call "Gloria's Eyes" to mind -- it's just a blank spot!
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