Let's Rap About Cap, pt. 6: 70s Kirby


All quotes this time around from Mark Evanier's Kirby: King of Comics.

"In 1975, Kirby returned to Marvel. They welcomed him back and let him write/ draw/ edit his own comics, on his own. Some were new (The Eternals, Devil Dinosaur), some were adaptations (2001), and some were old friends revisited (Black Panther, Captain America.) Many readers (and some in the office) were bothered that (Kirby's direction on Panther and Cap) did not coincide with the tidy inter-continuity of the Marvel Universe. Others disliked Jack's writing style or felt his art was getting sloppy. That eye was really starting to bother him by now, making drawing for hours at his desk more painful and skewing his perspectives in odd slants. His inkers would do what they could to compensate, but it was becoming obvious to anyone who looked past the surface excitement: something was wrong."

It was Kirby's second stint at Marvel that formed my first impression of the man. Mainly from Cap Annual #4, which I'd somehow acquired in my travels.

My friends and I were unimpressed.

By the time I got around to fully reading Kirby's return to Cap (CA 193 through 214 plus a handful of annuals and special editions), I was more or less conditioned to just be thankful for having Kirby compositions to admire. To some extent, this is still my approach to Kirby; he's a category of one where any basis for comparison can only be other Kirby.

How does it hold up from that p.o.v.? Better than its reputation at the time, certainly, but perhaps a bit puffed up by later Kirbyphiles. Like me, too, I guess. So be it! The conventional wisdom on Kirby - that his best work was in that '65 to '73 period - is probably correct.

What jumps out most about the art throughout Kirby's return to character are the heavy, heavy inks.

I wonder if that's what explains Frank Miller's heavy-inks and skewed-perspectives of recent years? Not that that has anything to do with Jack.
In a way, it adds a very abstract element to things. I mean, what's with this dude's face? Can shadows even do that? Are these confused tattoos of sideburns and retinal leakage?

Discovering that Kirby's deteriorating vision was throwing off his angles and that his inkers (including Frank Giacoia, Dan Green, and Mike Royer) were doing all they could to cover for him explains a lot.  

The two main storylines of Kirby's return to Cap are collected in the Madbomb and The Swine trades. Both are fun enough for what they are, though I'm not too interested in discussing plot nuances with this post. If you like Kirby, you'll find your way into these things; if not, they probably won't do it for you. The Swine is a fun version of a familiar enough character: the South American despot with the femme fatale family member (Donna Marie - another of one of Kirby's go-tos for unofficial female models Lainie Kazan-types like Big Barda or Medusa) who falls for the hero.

Cap needs one of those thought bubbles where you just see "!!!" here, in response to Donna Marie.
Elsewhere, Sharon Carter turns into Sue Storm, while Leila is modeled on Pam Grier. Not the most original choices, which fueled further fan discontent.

"Something was wrong with the sales, too. Jack wasn't connecting with the current Marvel readership, partly because he wasn't connecting with the current Marvel line. Years after, his seventies work would be regarded more favorably and even reprinted, right along with everything else he ever did, time and again. Some would even say the sales figures weren't as dour as the rumors of the time insisted.

"But that was later. Just then, he'd stopped being Jack Kirby, the guy who created, or co-created, so many successful new comics. With the end of his contract in sight, he was Jack Kirby, the guy who did those wonky, unreadable books that didn't sell so great. 'Jack the Hack,' some called him, implying that he'd stopped caring.

"That hurt - hurt him a lot - because he was working harder than ever, with less and less to show for it except dwindling hope and eyesight. Even his boundless imagination couldn't fathom how things might get any better, especially feeling as much hostility from the Marvel editorial staff as he felt. The one person there he thought respected him was the editor in chief, Archie Goodwin. Then Goodwin told him he'd be stepped down in the future."

It's worth reading through Jim Shooter (the EIC after Archie)'s memory of the period for a different perspective. (And more here. That blog is an inexhaustible treasure.) Evanier, in King of Comics and elsewhere, is sometimes a little too on the anti-Shooter side of things. He seems genuinely bummed at the lack of respect Kirby received during this time while understanding of some of his work not being up to snuff. 

"The pages all smelled like cigar smoke. He wrote the dialogue and captions right on the penciled pages, sort of rough-lettering the book. He used exclamation points in bunches, sometimes a dozen at a time at the end of a sentence!!!!!!!!!!!  He misspelled some things — like everybody else — and occasionally misused a word. He used tons of bold words. He’d slightly over-estimate the size of the balloons, which meant that the inker sometimes had to extend backgrounds around the balloons, but it was insignificant, never a problem. Those were great time. After I read each issue, I would call Jack and go over the corrections I proposed to make, mostly punctuation, spelling, grammar and such. I never messed with his intent, though a few (very few) times I caught a significant mistake and proposed a solution. I was as respectful and deferential as could be, as everyone should be when dealing with a King. Jack was the easiest-to-deal-with creator I ever worked with. He seemed to sincerely appreciate my help and thanked me. Technically, by contract, he was the Editor of his own books. He could have refused any of my suggestions, but he never did." 

So, just a few quick impressions of this run:


I mean... this is friggin' chain mail we're talking about here, isn't it? I never understand this. This isn't confined to Kirby, by any means; Buscema, Steranko, and others always drew Cap's suit casually draped over the back of a chair or something. Always cracks me up. I want to stress this isn't a dealbreaker of any kind - I'd actually miss this if it wasn't there. It lends to the pleasant disorientation and unreality of comics. I'm sure the answer involves Reed Richards and unstable molecules.

Either way, snazzy threads, Mr. Rogers. That's one serious suit.


Just because Jack was a retirement-age WW2 vet doesn't mean his work couldn't share in some of the American New Wave sensibility that perfumed so much of the 70s.

I have zero idea what the hell the Falcon is on about here. But I want to see NIGHTMARE FILE ONE SIXTEEN immediately.

The country's bicentennial happened on Kirby's Cap watch, which also allowed for some New Wave-ian fun. Or, at least my projection of such on these images.

This picture from 40 years ago reminds me of how accurate this little breakdown truly is. Holy Christ Rape indeed.

Oh man, Arnim Zola! I love this visual so much. It's so perfectly comic-booky. I've read that "only Kirby could pull this off," but I was introduced to the character in the DeMatteis/ Zeck days and he worked just fine for me there.

That he's a devout Nazi extends the crazy admirably. Almost adorably - though I doubt anything involving Nazis can actually approach "adorable."


"Late in 1978 there came a day where - reprints aside - no new comic with art by Jack Kirby was on sale or soon to come out. Readers of the day didn't seem to notice. And it didn't bother Kirby one bit. He just walked away."

Although this sounds on the face of it to be bittersweet - and maybe it is, at least partially - the reason why Jack was unbothered by this was because he was hired by Hanna-Barbara, who offered him a contract that gave him everything he'd ever asked from Marvel: creator credit, job security, health insurance, and generous retirement benefits. His new colleagues had great affection for him, to boot, and he spent the last few years of his working life enjoying both the well-deserved respect of his peers (as well as the explicit praise and acknowledgement fans-turned-creators in other fields like James Cameron and Michael Chabon) and - outside of his public battle with Marvel over creative ownership, which while not worked out 100% to his satisfaction, was basically a legal inevitability - financial and creative satisfaction. At least more than he'd known (shamefully) in his decades in the comics-making biz.

Kirby never came back to the character he co-created with Joe Simon way back in 1940 after Cap 214. On one hand, that's too bad. On the other, there are three different eras of Kirby's Cap, each quite distinct from the other, and that's something to which no other Cap creator can lay claim.



  1. (1) I've always been curious about Devil Dinosaur.

    (2) A lot of this art really is kind of weak. Cap looks a bit as if he'd been squashed down to where he was only 85% of his normal height, the remaining 15% having done into his face, somehow. But if deteriorating vision is the explanation, then that certainly makes sense. What a bummer!

    (3) "Madbomb" and "The Swine" -- put 'em together and you've got a thoroughly disreputable set of drive-time deejays.

    (4) "It's the MAN-FISH!" That needs at least two more exclamation marks. And yes, one wishes Cap had simply replied by gawping.

    (5) I dunno. You can do a lot worse than look like seventies Pam Grier.

    (6) The thought of Cap having his shield be perfectly undetectable under his suit jacket brings one thought and one thought only to mind: "Can't see the line, can you, Russ?" Tis the season.

    1. (1) I've been saving that one for the proverbial rainy day. KAMANDI, too. All the Kirby I've yet to read, I guess.

      (2) Agreed. He did do some more comics work in the 80s and it seems less wonky than this CAP stuff. (THE HUNGER DOGS for DC and the CAPTAIN VICTORY stuff for Pacific Comics.

      (3) I like it. "Sixty minutes of commercial free music with MADBOMB and THE SWINE. 97-X! BANG!"

      (5) Oh very much agreed. I think people just thought it was a lazy choice or something. Who knows what people were thinking. People are crazy.

      (6) Ho Ho Ho!

  2. Wonderful post, B Mc! I remember my brother had that 'Mad Bomb' issue back in the mid '70s. I recall reading it and getting spooked by the catastrophic nature of that device. Basically, folks, it was a small metal tube about the size of a coke bottle and when it got set off/switched on, the entire populace started going crazy.
    I see what you mean about Kirby's heavy inking too.
    I was more of a Spidey fan back then. Still have a couple of issues.

    1. 70s Spidey was an interesting era, for sure. I'm more of a 60s and 80s Spidey fan, but I'll still take 70s Spidey over many other comics. He was my favorite as a kid. (Well, after Daredevil - he was my first favorite superhero.) Thanks for the kind words, sir!

    2. Aww man, now you tell me. I had a selection of early '80s Spidey comics that I practically gave away at a garage sale six months ago. Don't feel to bad, though. A lady bought them for her eight year old kid. Issue 239 of "Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man" went onto eBay where I scored an easy forty bucks for it. It had the Romita Snr and Jr cover art. Introducition of the Hobgoblin in that issue too. I may have a hunt around in the "craft room", which is currently doubling as a room full of crap. There's a shelf of comics (Miller's Dark Knight, Watchmen, Mr X-brilliant concept, but, boy, was there ages between issues! Worse than The Rocketeer, if that's possible).